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  • The Differences of MTB Black & MTB Red

    January 15, 2018 2 min read 36 Comments

    It's launch day here at Snell HQ and we are excited to bring you two new products for the 2018 season. MTB BLACK & MTB RED are officially live for PRE-SALE and will be shipping February 15th for MTB RED and March 1st for MTB Black. 

    When we launched the original MTB we addressed optimal distance and superior short game control. Our new models will now help improve your approach game, by dialing in your short irons with these two new offerings of different spin levels.

    To help everyone understand the new balls, we have posted a launch video on our YouTube Channel. (Also shared below)

    FAQ:  I am not sure which new model will fit me? How do I tell? 

    There is no perfect answer for this as every golfer has different characteristics of how they hit the ball and the way they approach the golf course. However, a couple key notes to help you differentiate:

    • Both models will have similar driver spin rates and distances, but the MTB RED will feel a bit firmer off the Driver and longer shots. 
    • The MTB RED is designed to have higher spin on short irons and approaches. This is the key difference in the models. If you feel you need MORE SPIN with these shots, MTB RED would be a good start. 
    • MTB BLACK will have less spin than RED on the short irons and typically will fly a bit lower for a slightly more penetrating ball flight. 
    • Both balls are high performance around the green. From 50 yards and in balls will perform and feel about the same. 

      In Comparison to our Current MTB:
      MTB BLACK MTB RED
    Driver Distance Very Long Very Long
    Driver  Spin Reduced from Original Same as Original MTB
    Driver Feel
    Slightly Softer 
    a Bit Firmer
    Long Iron Distance  Longer Same as Original
    Long Iron Feel  Slightly Softer  a Bit Firmer
    Mid & Short Irons Spin Same as Original Higher Spin 
    Short Game Feel Soft Feel Soft Feel

     

    Hope this helps you better understand the new models. 

    If you are still unsure I highly recommend our new MTB Test Pack which features two sleeves of each of the new models to test for your game. 

    Cheers and Play Well in 2018!

     

     

    36 Responses

    Nick Briach
    Nick Briach

    February 11, 2019

    I tried my first Snell MTG Black balls. I was truly amazed with the distance I got. I normally hit Srixon Q Star or Srixon Feel Soft. I’ve not been able to fully test out both RED or BLK balls completely, due to local weather, but from what I was able to see, I may have a new go to ball. Where normally I would use a 9 iron, the Snell ball went about 5-10 yds. further. I had to switch to my Pitching wedge. Around the green and the feel was also great. I’m excited to get back on the course to continue my test of both balls. So far, its a fantasist ball.

    Mark Harmon
    Mark Harmon

    February 11, 2019

    Please manufacture the blacks in color, people with eye sight problems would appreciate it!!!!!

    charles thompson
    charles thompson

    November 26, 2018

    Bought 6 dozen a couple of years ago. I’m old and hit it straight,I still have a sleeve left, but I’m looking forward to testing the new versions. Dean is turning out a great golf ball at a sensible price. Our senior club champ, who shoots his age every day and is tighter than a drum swears by them. That’s saying something.

    Jeff Worsham
    Jeff Worsham

    November 26, 2018

    Is there any chance you will be making the MTB black in optic yellow in the future? Thanks.

    Bob DeWit
    Bob DeWit

    February 11, 2019

    My best friend is a great teaching professional. As I am 71 he told me to forget distance as that ship has sailed and use ball that makes your short game better. With a swing speed of 85 off driver the Red is a great ball. There are a few good players at my club playing them and we all love them. Black and Red. We are all sold on them and I expect more players to convert soon. Congrads to Dean

    Joseph J Robinson
    Joseph J Robinson

    October 23, 2018

    I been reading about the Snell Black and Red Golf ball. Is it possible for me to just order 6 black and 6 red balls to see which ball fits me better. I will pay the price of the dozen.. Am playing the Taylor Made TP5x I do like it but the cost is getting to me.
    Thank You
    Joe Robinson

    Aaron Frechette
    Aaron Frechette

    October 23, 2018

    Been playing Snell since they came out. Great product! With the introduction of the red I have had the privilege to really get a feel for what ball I really like. Problem is, I still have 6 doz MTB blacks from over a year ago. After playing the reds for the start of this season I actually feel the black is the ball for me. Now, with that being said I just grabbed 2 doz of the new black model with the USA flag on them. I’m going to play these tomorrow and can’t wait to feel if they are actually softer than the old blacks. I’ll have to check in after tomorrow’s round.

    John Williamson
    John Williamson

    October 23, 2018

    12 handicap here, losing balls in water hazards at multiple country clubs on both ends of the country, all Snell MTB with American Fllags. The flags save me the bother of marking – on the First tee , no “ProV 8 with three blue dots” or any of that nonsense. Just “Snell with an American Flag” and slap it out there while their still wondering what I said. The Flags should be permanent.

    Brock Fleenor
    Brock Fleenor

    October 23, 2018

    Just finished playing my fourth round with the same MTB Red ball. Thats right, 72 holes with the same ball and its still in my bag. Looks great, feels great, sounds great and plays great. Durability is certainly not an issue. Thanks Snell Golf for a great ball at a reasonable price.

    David Price
    David Price

    May 18, 2018

    I have been playing the MTB since I found out about them about 3 years ago. I received some ProV1X’s as a gift, which I use now if I’m not swinging well, on a hole where I might lose a ball. If I lose the Titlest, oh well, at least I didn’t lose the Snell!! I now use the MTB Red, and will never go back to any ball I used before. I love this Snell balls, and the price. Tip, don’t let ego get it the way of using a better ball that costs about 1/2 the price!!

    ted ebert
    ted ebert

    May 18, 2018

    I use the PV1X what ball red or black would be the same.

    Chris
    Chris

    May 18, 2018

    I just played a round with the test pack switching every two holes. Both balls performed fantastic. I am a 16-18 Hcp. My swing speed is on the slow side, 85-90 with the driver. Both balls carried around the same distance. The Black ran out more with every club. The Red was pretty much drop and stop with very little run out. I don’t hit it long so I liked the Black off the tee because of extra roll. The Red was just great around the green. The Red felt the best off my putter. Still testing but I am probably going with the Red.

    Phil Covell
    Phil Covell

    May 18, 2018

    I purchased several MTB value packs last season. Love the ball. Will you be offering the 6 dozen value packs at a reduced price again this year? Can I mix the black and red in my first 6 dozen order?
    Phil

    Pedro Gomez
    Pedro Gomez

    May 18, 2018

    I ordered the test pack of the new MTB black and red. Loved them both. Am play usually in the low 80s. The Red one felt a little bit softer to the touch but other than that I think I will reorder the Black as it has great distance, and it suits my swing nicely, I was able to use my wedges aggressively after the flag as the ball grabs the green very well. I also think the durability of the ball is better than the previous version. Will definitely buy it again.

    Larry Korenman
    Larry Korenman

    May 18, 2018

    Just tried the new MTB Black/MTB Red – tested on course. Results were awesome and better even than I thought. I have been playing the original MTB and LOVED it – been telling others for 2 years about them!
    Today:
    Off driver both went great – hit a couple with Black 20 yards past an equally well hit Red on 2 consecutive holes
    150 yds – they both were great – equal distance – the RED had a bit more spin (8-irons for me)
    100 yds – they both were wonderful – RED had more spin but both were similar and close to hole (sand wedge)
    Putter – Both felt GREAT! off my O-works 7 with the “microhinges” and rolled well – THANKS for such a great ball!

    Mark Enright
    Mark Enright

    May 18, 2018

    First played the Snell golf ball a couple years ago at a golf tournament in Florida.I never heard of the ball and was given a sleeve by my playing partner.Got back to Michigan and looked up the history of the Snell name.I agree on the opinion that Dean expresses. The average player is tired of the high price of golf balls.I purchased both balls and have spoken to members at my club about Dean, and his past development of golf balls. They like the price and performance.They perform like any other high priced ball if not better.Thanks Dean for making a great product at a affordable price.

    George Johnson
    George Johnson

    May 18, 2018

    always great to read what other golfers have to say about different products ,i am going to buy a sleeve of MTB RED

    Charlie Cross
    Charlie Cross

    May 18, 2018

    I been playing the MTB for 3 years it’s all I play now. In that time I’ve won a club championship and had a hole in one with the MTB. It’s the best ball in the game. Looking forward to playing the MTB red. Keep up the great work all of you do at Snell Golf.

    Mark Barnes
    Mark Barnes

    February 11, 2018

    Hi Dean! Can’t wait to try the new models. Like a couple of comments above, as a senior golfer with a swing speed of 80 mph (with driver), which model would suggest? The short game is very important to me since I don’t hit the ball as far as I used to. Would appreciate your suggestion and thanks!

    Louise Perry
    Louise Perry

    February 07, 2018

    I haven’t seen anything out there representing the women that golf, of which I am one! My son gave me a sleeve of MTB balls last year. I couldn’t believe what a difference they made to my game. I normally score somewhere between 82 – 93 depending on who comes out to play that day! I’m 71 and absolutely love these balls. My handicap floats between 14 – 16. I took advantage of the special prior to the new launch so have enough to start the year but plan on ordering a test pack later on. Thanks Dean.

    Marco Glumac
    Marco Glumac

    February 05, 2018

    As a converted full time user of the MTB, I’m looking forward to using the MTB Black, which on paper looks like it will be the best fit. After changing to Snell for a full season, I found them durable, consistent and a great price. In addition, dealing with Snell Golf couldn’t be easier. Friendly, timely, etc, an all around great Golf Company. I’m sure the new Balls will push Snell further into the marketplace. If you haven’t given these a test run, do yourself a favor and try them.

    Tim Parker
    Tim Parker

    January 25, 2018

    I found a MTB at my course. I said what kind of ball is this. I never heard of them. I said probably an old cheap ball. So I played a few holes with it. Went home and got on the computer to see if I could find something out about this ball. Read about Dean. Found out how long he’d been working making balls. The next time I played I said lets play this ball again. Boy was I glad I did. Found that it seamed longer off my driver about the same off other clubs. This ball is the best ball around. The only ball I buy now. Been playing them for 2 years now. I use to play pall I found if it was a top brand ball like the Pro V1. Might buy a dozen once in awhile. Not now. The MTB is all I play. If you haven’t played this ball. PLAY IT. Can’t wait to try the new MTB. After I get rid of all the MTB I have now. I but the 6 dozen pack. Can’t beat the price. I tell every golfer about this ball. Dean you have a great ball keep up the excellent work. I’ll never play another ball as long as you keep making them. DAMN THIS BALL IS GREAT.

    don decker
    don decker

    January 23, 2018

    only tried the snell when I found 1 at my local course now I love them. looking forward to the new black

    Jason @ Snell Golf
    Jason @ Snell Golf

    January 17, 2018

    Thanks for some of the comments guys. Hope we can help with a few answers here… Regarding Get Sum, our 2 piece Surlyn model isn’t going anywhere and will continue to be available in single dozens and value packs.

    Regarding the swing speed question: both models of our MTB are a lower compression and are in the 75-80 compression range. We encourage the guys concerned about swing speed to try the test pack but likely believe the MTB RED may help you to hold greens with the increased spin on approach shots 150 yards and in….. The swing speed/ball compression story is often oversold and mostly a marketing tool. By going to an “ultra-low” compression golf ball you MIGHT gain 1 MPH in ball speed and if that’s true at your swing speeds you would gain approx. 6 inches on a drive. 6 inches! But often you have been told to buy low compression but have then sacrificed a better performing ball from 100 yards and in, around the greens, where the majority of YOUR scoring takes place. Our fitting philosophy is to fit your ball from 100 or 150 yards and in, finding a ball that optimizes scoring for your game, then work your way back to the tee. With today’s technology, most quality golf balls will go about the same off the tee.

    Hope this helps!

    mark dickerson
    mark dickerson

    January 15, 2018

    I love the MTB ball ! I can’t wait to test drive the new MTB ball. As far as i’m concerned the MTB ball is just as good or better than the Prov1. Great job dean and crew !

    john laurine
    john laurine

    January 15, 2018

    Have used the MTB in the past and still have a few dozen left. Am interested in trying the new offerings and will order the MTB test pack to see which ball I will order in the future. Very satisfying to have a tour quality ball at such a great price.

    Burney Warren
    Burney Warren

    January 15, 2018

    Which ball will produce more distance at slower swing speeds. My swing speed is low 80’s

    Glen Burr
    Glen Burr

    January 15, 2018

    I’m looking forward to trying out the new MTB balls. I have tried the older model, but was not a steady user. Only reason is that it’s easier to buy balls at the Pro Shop with tournament winnings.
    I will be ordering a test pack today. With your description, I’m guessing the new MTB Black will be the winner.
    Good luck in 2018!

    Charlie Kennedy
    Charlie Kennedy

    January 15, 2018

    In your comments I would have appreciated a comparison of the new releases to swing speed. I am 79 and have a swing speed in the high 80’s.

    Chad Moller
    Chad Moller

    January 15, 2018

    Dean et al, you guys are the best. Just ordered the sample dozen to see which one fits me best, and can’t wait to try them out! I expect both of them to be amazing. Keep up the great work, and thanks for making such a great product and keeping it so reasonably priced.

    Brian
    Brian

    January 15, 2018

    Looking forward to taking the new MTB Black out for a test drive! I would agree that the spin rate off the tee with the old MTB ball is too high and if the new science is right, this new ball will be my “go to” source for longer and more accurate drives. I have always enjoyed the way the ball reacts off the face of my irons so no real problem there for me.
    Thanks for the video and the matrix that lays out the new capabilities of the new designs.
    I’m a regular customer and one of your best advocates on the golf course. Keep up the great work!
    Best,
    Brian

    Billy Qualls
    Billy Qualls

    May 18, 2018

    I’ve been using the MTB for 2 years now. Previously I used the ProV1x. I didn’t like the ProV1. Getting ready to order 4 dozen. What would be your choice for me? Thanks. You make a great ball

    Gerald Bruce
    Gerald Bruce

    January 15, 2018

    Thanks for providing the Tour Ball in Optic Yellow. As a golfer with Glaucoma, I really appreciate being able to get a tour-quality ball at a reasonable price. And from a reliable company.

    Charles Gambrill
    Charles Gambrill

    January 15, 2018

    Senior player (75). Played both the MTB and GET SUM in 2017. Frankly not too much difference for me in play. So have repurchased the less expensive GET SUM. While the softer GET SUM scuffed a bit easier, the Optic Yellow was super easy for these old eyes follow on the ground and overcast days. What will be the ongoing status of GET SUM?

    Charles Bartholomew
    Charles Bartholomew

    January 15, 2018

    Looking good. Can’t wait to test them.

    Todd Mathis
    Todd Mathis

    January 15, 2018

    Great job Dean, keep up the good work.

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